Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by TheBook » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:59 pm

I use it on both the I-Pace and Evoque. The only issue as I see it is if I have my phone set to do not disturb (as I do when I go to bed). That’s an Apple issue, not JLR
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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by GSIpace » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:07 pm

What difference does the Guardian mode make?
My work place is known for very poor phone signal for most networks.
What does a trader do the there is a lack of phone signal?

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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by TheBook » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:08 am

Guardian Mode informs you if the car is unlocked, has been started or doors have been opened. It does this even if your keys are being used. Therefore, in theory, should someone take your keys and unlocked your car, you will be alerted. Of course a phone signal will be a prerequisite.
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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by ricstokes » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:40 am

It would be good to hear a comment from JLR about why the iPace Tracker can be so easily disabled. Is there anything us owners can do to prevent this happening?

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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by electric beagle » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:01 am

You can presumably always block a tracker with a fairly cheap signal jammer that prevents GPS connectivity? That goes for any car not exclusively JLR.

What I don't understand is unless you are going to sell a stolen iPace for parts, how do you ever sell it on, when at best any buyer would not be able to use any online services, apps etc? Its a mad thing to steal really.
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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by ianipace » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:45 am

electric beagle wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:01 am
You can presumably always block a tracker with a fairly cheap signal jammer that prevents GPS connectivity? That goes for any car not exclusively JLR.

What I don't understand is unless you are going to sell a stolen iPace for parts, how do you ever sell it on, when at best any buyer would not be able to use any online services, apps etc? Its a mad thing to steal really.
Well for a start the traction battery is worth £10,000 + on the open market! Add together all the bits and pieces, wheels, tyres and numerous body parts and I'm sure you could net £15,000 from the stolen car! Not bad for an evenings work!
Mind you the government pays that sort of money to 'consultants'!
Pack it into a container and ship to another country, sadly this an industry that is thriving.
Transit vans used to be the choice vehicle to steal, nearly always just for the engine and gearbox especially in Russia!

Going back to the I-Pace, the TCU is hidden, but not that well, and it is possible to get to it if you know where it is. Without the TCU, all communication with the outside world is lost!

That shark fin on the roof, that's the antenna, now with a bit of thought and aluminium foil...goodbye I-Pace!

Not all is lost because you can add another GPS tracking device, the sort that is fitted to mini diggers etc. If you park your car outside the house or on the road, then it may be an option worth considering?

Giles Coren could have had any car and the same thing happened, he let rip because he likes the I-Pace, I'm sure if he had an Audi e-Tron we would have had a similar tirade!!

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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by NigelC » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:31 pm

TheBook wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:08 am
Guardian Mode informs you if the car is unlocked, has been started or doors have been opened. It does this even if your keys are being used. Therefore, in theory, should someone take your keys and unlocked your car, you will be alerted. Of course a phone signal will be a prerequisite.
Hi,

Just tried this, and went to our car to unlock and open the drivers door.

The only alert that came on my iPhone was hidden in the Jaguar Remote App itself. If I hadn't opened the app, I wouldn't have seen the notification.

Is there a way to get an audible notification or better still a notification that comes up on the home screen on the iPhone?

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by Daon7800 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:53 pm

NigelC wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:31 pm
TheBook wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:08 am
Guardian Mode informs you if the car is unlocked, has been started or doors have been opened. It does this even if your keys are being used. Therefore, in theory, should someone take your keys and unlocked your car, you will be alerted. Of course a phone signal will be a prerequisite.
Hi,

Just tried this, and went to our car to unlock and open the drivers door.

The only alert that came on my iPhone was hidden in the Jaguar Remote App itself. If I hadn't opened the app, I wouldn't have seen the notification.

Is there a way to get an audible notification or better still a notification that comes up on the home screen on the iPhone?

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Nigel
Go to settings and scroll down to the Remote Jaguar app. Go to notifications and make sure they are turned. Choose your alert style and turn on sound.
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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by Delta5 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:59 pm

electric beagle wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:01 am
You can presumably always block a tracker with a fairly cheap signal jammer that prevents GPS connectivity? That goes for any car not exclusively JLR.

What I don't understand is unless you are going to sell a stolen iPace for parts, how do you ever sell it on, when at best any buyer would not be able to use any online services, apps etc? Its a mad thing to steal really.
There are plenty of high end cars get stolen and shipped to countries where no questions are asked, once they are registered legally there and sold on to a unsuspecting (maybe) punter the car has passed through many hands. If any parts are needed they are ordered and supplied in the normal way.

A few years back a Combine Harvester was stolen in Essex, 2 yrs later it turned up in Western Australia the only way it was identified was when a technician plugged the computer in to fix a fault
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Re: Giles Coren i-Pace Stolen, Tracker easily disabled

Post by Lobster » Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:51 am

Was this a publicity stunt? The car was found nicely parked within walking distance of his home.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/jour ... 59297.html

I believe the shark-fin antenna could be shielded to prevent tracking, but the actual theft seems problematic.

The key fob uses an RF transmitter to unlock the car from a distance. InControl apps can do this over a greater distance too via the API and phone networks.

But is it possible to use a radio relay to transmit the fob RF signal from inside your home and unlock the I-Pace without pressing the fob unlock button?

Also I thought the car used a different proximity device in the key fob to allow the door handle push switch to unlock the car as when the fob battery is flat, the key hidden inside the fob can unlock the car using the mechanical lock, but Starting is only possible using the proximity sensor under the steering wheel.

The car also warns if the key fob is misplaced either inside or outside of the cabin. I have just attempted to start the car with the fob outside of the vehicle, there is a Warning chime and message "Smart Key not recognised "etc. the car does not start.

How was this theft achieved?

Cheers, Steve
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