MY21 charging speed

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EEV320
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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by EEV320 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:19 pm

Thanks a lot! I will try that as soon as I get back home to my computer.

Thanks for the help
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EEV320
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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by EEV320 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:10 pm

Thank you Kermit! That works like a charm and is definitely a great tool for what Jaguar won’t give us.

I drove 320km today on Autobahn. Ambient temperature was at 6C and the app gave me insights on battery temperature. I was able to bring it 25C before charging and I saw that it would be easy to trigger that by either driving fast or “yoyoing “.
Arrived at the charger with 25C at 12% SoC and it started with 107kw. First 20kwh only took 10min.
Charging curve was close to perfect so it delivered 50kwh in about 40min.

I didn’t make the graph I was too excited to see it live :-)
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Grunt
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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by Grunt » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:43 am

Hi Kermit,

Thanks a lot for this.
I have been following the joint efforts in identifying the meaning of the PID, very impressive stuff!

But I was looking for a way to put it to actual use. Your tutorial does exactly that.
One issue I have though: your ZIP contains the details for the MY21 I-Pace. Mine is a MY19... As a result, many of the results work fine, but others (capacity, regen, speed etc) do not.
Are you aware of a similar guide & files somewhere for the MY2019 I-Pace for use with Torque Pro?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by Jelle v/d Meer » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:24 am

EEV320 wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:10 pm
Arrived at the charger with 25C at 12% SoC and it started with 107kw. First 20kwh only took 10min.
Charging curve was close to perfect so it delivered 50kwh in about 40min.
Good to hear that is helped you with faster charging and the advised results are good, certainly considering outside temperature and risk for coldgate however I would not call them perfect.
* 20kWh in 10mins is extremely good, more than technical possible as it equates to 120kW charging speed
* 30kWh in next 30 minutes is really bad - just 60kW charging speed
* Average of 50kW in 40 minutes starting at 12% is slightly above expected charge curve - which indicates 43 minutes for adding 50kW from 12% to approx 77% SoC.

Be advised that various I-pace drivers have on rare occasions managed to nearly charge 50kW in 30 minutes, the speed that Jaguar original promised when they advertised the car 0-80% in 40minutes.
See below compilation of photos taken of my best charging session with 20kW in 12 mins and 50kW in 30 mins charging from 6% to 64%.

Best Charging Ever.JPG

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kermit68
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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by kermit68 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:06 am

Grunt wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:43 am
Hi Kermit,

Thanks a lot for this.
I have been following the joint efforts in identifying the meaning of the PID, very impressive stuff!

But I was looking for a way to put it to actual use. Your tutorial does exactly that.
One issue I have though: your ZIP contains the details for the MY21 I-Pace. Mine is a MY19... As a result, many of the results work fine, but others (capacity, regen, speed etc) do not.
Are you aware of a similar guide & files somewhere for the MY2019 I-Pace for use with Torque Pro?

Thanks in advance!
Hi Grunt, sorry for the late reply.
For MY19/20 only regen / max available power should be different, all the other PIDs work the same. Energy estimation for sure is ok as the model has been developed on MY19/20 car and I did not changed for MY21. In any case here are the correct formuals you can use for earlier model:

- max regen: Max Regen, Max Regen, 0x224913, int16(A:B)/100, 0, 150, kW, 7E4 (same PID and ECU, just different formula)
- max available power: Max Available Power, Max Power, 0x224912, int16(A:B)/100, 0, 150, kW, 7E4 (same PID and ECU, just different formula)
- External temperature: Ext Temperature, Ext Temp, 0x229924, (A/2)-40, -50, 50, degC, 733

For MY21 as I found HVAC ECU (finally), we can get from the same ECU (with same 0.5C precision) as for MY19/20 so the new formula will be:
- Ext Temperature, Ext Temp, 0x229924, (A/2)-40, -50, 50, degC, 7e3 (only ECu address is different from MY19/20)

If you have any other doubt just let me know.
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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by kermit68 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:13 am

Last Sunday I did another HPC charging from 6% to 98% in near perfect temperature conditions (ext temp around 16C, initial battery temp around 20C). The results are very similar to the previous test and confirm that the MY21 is faster in the inital part of charging curve but slower on the second part. Overall I think the charging speed is the same or slightly worse compared to MY19/20 if you push the charging to 80% or more.

I-Pace_MY21_charging_curve_2.jpg

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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by electric beagle » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:23 am

Jelle v/d Meer wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:24 am
EEV320 wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:10 pm
Arrived at the charger with 25C at 12% SoC and it started with 107kw. First 20kwh only took 10min.
Charging curve was close to perfect so it delivered 50kwh in about 40min.
Good to hear that is helped you with faster charging and the advised results are good, certainly considering outside temperature and risk for coldgate however I would not call them perfect.
* 20kWh in 10mins is extremely good, more than technical possible as it equates to 120kW charging speed
* 30kWh in next 30 minutes is really bad - just 60kW charging speed
* Average of 50kW in 40 minutes starting at 12% is slightly above expected charge curve - which indicates 43 minutes for adding 50kW from 12% to approx 77% SoC.

Be advised that various I-pace drivers have on rare occasions managed to nearly charge 50kW in 30 minutes, the speed that Jaguar original promised when they advertised the car 0-80% in 40minutes.
See below compilation of photos taken of my best charging session with 20kW in 12 mins and 50kW in 30 mins charging from 6% to 64%.
Best Charging Ever.JPG
Isn't the MY21 meant to have up to 150Kwh charging capacity? I have certainly seen mine hit 117 Kwh when charging.

Last week I charged at a BP Pulse (50Kwh). The Tesla 3 driver who had been using it just before me was getting <33Kwh, whereas I consistently hit 50Kwh throughout the charging session from a base of circa 28% charge to a bit over 80%.

I generally find performance at 50Kwh chargers to be superb, however 150Kwh chargers can be fairly hit and miss with typically not a dramatic improvement from 50Kwh charging (it tends to average about 70Kwh over a session).
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Re: MY21 charging speed

Post by Davereddevil » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 pm

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charged today at 2 different InstaVolt 125 kw chargers on the M1. Lower one was at Duckmanton from 50% and second at Barlborough from 30%. Pleased with the charging speed. Only needed a 20 minute top up on the way to and from Leeds. I have never had the opportunity to test the speed from a very low percentage yet.

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