Pivi Pro - upgrade?

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by Abu Dhabi Dude » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:47 pm

ianipace wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:24 pm
Could I ask for a few clarifications with regards acronyms please?

EOL?
TPD?
TCU?
BECM?
BCCM?

It is fine if you know what they mean but you don't then the enjoyment of gaining information from a post is severely affected.

By the way it is SOTA (Software Over The Air) not OTA in Jaguar Land Rover language! If we are talking about the I-Pace can we keep to the correct term?

Covid lockdown rant over!!

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At the risk of being pedantic (but you opened this can of worms), both OTA and SOTA are correct depending on usage. It is incorrect to say “infotainment can be updated SOTA”. But it is correct to say “infotainment can be updated OTA”. The acronyms are not Jaguar specific ones. They are acronyms used throughout the software industry, so just because someone hasn’t heard of one it doesn’t make it wrong to use it.

EOL - End Of Life
TPD - Touch Pro Duo
TCU - Telematics Control Unit
BECM - Body Electric Control Module (you may see this referred to in various ways as Battery or Body/Electric or Electronic control module)
BCCM - Battery Charging Control Module
OTA - Over The Air
SOTA - Software Over The Air

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by ianipace » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:55 pm

Alex,
To be absolutely honest the only one I couldn't work out was TPD!

As for the longevity of TPD, who knows,but I doubt if it will curtail anytime soon. If Apple and Android change something major, maybe Bluetooth (?) then JLR will have to issue an update! There are rumours that Bluetooth might well be tweaked to aid Covid apps.

Surely 'Infotainment system can be updated by SOTA' is correct?

Dear old JLR universally call it SOTA and not OTA when referring to the Infotainment system.

We know that most other ECUs on the car cannot be updated OTA, far too risky! Well Tesla might venture down that route, but they have a far better understanding of the pitfalls.

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by scm » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:07 pm

ianipace wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:55 pm
Surely 'Infotainment system can be updated by SOTA' is correct?
Yeah, I think ADD was making the point that "updated OTA" and "updated by SOTA" were different things, OTA and SOTA are not synonymous. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong ... ;)
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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by Abu Dhabi Dude » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:31 pm

scm wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:07 pm

Yeah, I think ADD was making the point that "updated OTA" and "updated by SOTA" were different things, OTA and SOTA are synonymous. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong ... ;)
Exactly that.

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by ianipace » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:34 pm

I would argue that Over The Air can be very different from Software Over The Air.
A radio programme is sent Over The Air when its reception is via radio frequencies, but it isn't Software Over The Air!

Take firmware for instance. Firmware is or can be very different to software.

All a bit pedantic I know, but there is nothing better to do during lockdown!

Sorry!

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by ianipace » Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:35 pm

By the way where did 'Pivi' come from?

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by scm » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:15 pm

ianipace wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:34 pm
I would argue that Over The Air can be very different from Software Over The Air.
I agree, I missed a "not" from my original post - fixed it now.

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by Garryjw » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:38 pm

Just to back up ADD I've heard the same thing as him but slightly differently worded. Update for Touch Pro duo to continue for at least 1 year after the last model produced with it. Note that last model wasn't last iPace. TPD is used by a lot of current models not due for immediate replacement.
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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by Abu Dhabi Dude » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:13 pm

scm wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:15 pm

I agree, I missed a "not" from my original post - fixed it now.
I knew what you meant. That’s what I was answering! My brain inserted the “not” when I read it! Without the “not” the two sentences would have been contradictory! :lol:

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Re: Pivi Pro - upgrade?

Post by scm » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:08 pm

I like people who autocorrect when reading ... ;)

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