New Owner Range Query

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jontybfc
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New Owner Range Query

Post by jontybfc » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:05 pm

Picked up my iPace on Friday and absolutely love it but..........

My drive to work is 18 miles. It's about 14 miles of motorway. When I set off the range was 170 miles, when I pulled up it was 140. So for a 18 mile journey I've used 30 miles of range.

Any ideas why this would be? I had the air con set at 18 degrees, phone plugged in for Apple Car play. Could these be taking the range off?

I'm panicking now about a long journey trip to Gatwick from up North. I planned a stop at about 170 miles for a charge and some food at a pub off the M40 but worried I won't make that distance on a full charge.

Cheers

Jonty

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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by Captain.Plummet » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:31 pm

The GoM is misleading but it does depend upon how you drive and which way the wind is blowing. Driven at speed limits without flooring the throttle at every opportunity you should easily get 220 miles winter and 250 miles summer but if you are driving at 90mph into a 20mph wind you would be lucky to see 170 miles.

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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by jowenharris » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:37 pm

Captain.Plummet wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:31 pm
The GoM is misleading but it does depend upon how you drive and which way the wind is blowing. Driven at speed limits without flooring the throttle at every opportunity you should easily get 220 miles winter and 250 miles summer but if you are driving at 90mph into a 20mph wind you would be lucky to see 170 miles.
In my experience, winter range on a (mainly) motorway journey, with a/c set to 20 deg C, and cruise control at 68mph, is around 190 miles. Summer, with no a/c it is about 235.

These figures are from a regular (twice a month) journey from Derbyshire to Darlington and return (approx 240 miles in total). Usually, travelling TO Darlington (with the south-westerly prevailng wind behind me) gives better than average, range. The return journey, which also tends to be late at night and colder, gives worse.

It is therefore difficult to give an accurate answer. 170 miles should be doable, but I would have a plan B that would allow for an earlier stop if the % charge available falls too quickly. I tend to work on a rule of thumb that I don't want to arrive at the next charge with less than 10%-15% (20 to 30 miles range) in reserve.

Hope it works out OK.
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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by Captain.Plummet » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:56 pm

This was yesterday, much of the way at 70 on the M1 and A14 but slow into Huntingdon. Temperature was about 10degC and the wind WSW so on the rear quarter. The return trip was 85mph most of the way (officer) and returned 2.3 m/kWh for a mean round trip range of about 218 miles. The trip home was 30deg into wind of course and it was blowing 15-20mph.

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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by Billy Bunter » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:31 pm

jontybfc wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:05 pm
Picked up my iPace on Friday and absolutely love it but..........

My drive to work is 18 miles. It's about 14 miles of motorway. When I set off the range was 170 miles, when I pulled up it was 140. So for a 18 mile journey I've used 30 miles of range.

Any ideas why this would be? I had the air con set at 18 degrees, phone plugged in for Apple Car play. Could these be taking the range off?

I'm panicking now about a long journey trip to Gatwick from up North. I planned a stop at about 170 miles for a charge and some food at a pub off the M40 but worried I won't make that distance on a full charge.

Cheers

Jonty
Also if the battery’s not warmed up beforehand then energy is lost bringing it up to temperature.

I notice this most on long journeys, the GOM falls quite quickly for the first 30-45 minutes and only after that it starts to match the actual km travelled. Can’t remember exactly, but I think its of the order of 30-50 km “lost”
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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by anorak » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:39 pm

Captain.Plummet wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:31 pm
... if you are driving at 90mph into a 20mph wind you would be lucky to see 170 miles.

I think you'd be lucky to see 120 miles under those circumstances. Non stop continent mile muncher the i-Pace most certainly is not.

I find my GOM over estimates by about 20% in the winter and 10% in the summer, generally driving within / at speed limits. YMMV.
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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by Captain.Plummet » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:13 pm

anorak wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:39 pm
Captain.Plummet wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:31 pm
... if you are driving at 90mph into a 20mph wind you would be lucky to see 170 miles.

I think you'd be lucky to see 120 miles under those circumstances. Non stop continent mile muncher the i-Pace most certainly is not.

I find my GOM over estimates by about 20% in the winter and 10% in the summer, generally driving within / at speed limits. YMMV.
That’s very pessimistic. I’ve not experienced less than 150 miles even hooning around Snetterton.

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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by mentir » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Another thing to note, since you just collected the car last Friday, is that the projected range (GOM) starts out very optimistic because it hasn't adapted to actual your driving and external conditions yet. At new, or after a reset, it will show what it basically a maximum range under ideal conditions. After a bit more driving and a few charge cycles you should see your projected range drop more in line with actual miles driven.
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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by Deleted User 325 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:47 pm

jontybfc wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:05 pm
Picked up my iPace on Friday and absolutely love it but..........

My drive to work is 18 miles. It's about 14 miles of motorway. When I set off the range was 170 miles, when I pulled up it was 140. So for a 18 mile journey I've used 30 miles of range.

Any ideas why this would be? I had the air con set at 18 degrees, phone plugged in for Apple Car play. Could these be taking the range off?

I'm panicking now about a long journey trip to Gatwick from up North. I planned a stop at about 170 miles for a charge and some food at a pub off the M40 but worried I won't make that distance on a full charge.

Cheers

Jonty
Take comfort from the fact that you are obviously "driving it like a JAAAGGG"

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Re: New Owner Range Query

Post by anorak » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:13 pm

Captain.Plummet wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:13 pm
anorak wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:39 pm
Captain.Plummet wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:31 pm
... if you are driving at 90mph into a 20mph wind you would be lucky to see 170 miles.

I think you'd be lucky to see 120 miles under those circumstances. Non stop continent mile muncher the i-Pace most certainly is not.

I find my GOM over estimates by about 20% in the winter and 10% in the summer, generally driving within / at speed limits. YMMV.
That’s very pessimistic. I’ve not experienced less than 150 miles even hooning around Snetterton.

It's not pessimistic in my experience unfortunately. Driving at 90mph into a 20mph headwind will use virtually the same power as driving at 110mph without wind.

At a constant 70mph my average consumption gives a range of about 180-190 miles. Bjorn did a high speed autobahn test at 200kmh (124mph) where his consumption was 67kWh/100km, giving a range of about 80 miles!

You might get 170 miles at 90mph with a 20mph tailwind, but not you won't driving into it.
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