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Rob
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FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by Rob » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:10 am

Jaguar’s all-electric I-PACE will deliver both rapid charging and rapid performance when it goes on sale on 1 March. Capable of charging in 45 minutes (The I-PACE will be capable of charging from zero to 80 per cent charge in 45 minutes, using a DC 100kW charger.) and with sports car performance and SUV practicality, the I-PACE will be the perfect every day car – whether on the school run, daily commute or even coping with sub-zero temperatures.

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Rigorously tested across extremes of terrain and temperature, the I-PACE has tamed the Arctic at Jaguar Land Rover’s cold weather test facility in Arjeplog, Sweden, at temperatures as low as -40°C.

Tony Westerlund, a potential customer from Sweden, had some interesting questions on living with

I-PACE in Arctic conditions, particularly regarding stability and traction on the ice and snow. To answer his questions, Jaguar engineers invited him to Arjeplog to drive the car for the first time and see how it’s been tested to ensure performance in extreme conditions:



“Not only will the I-PACE charge quickly enough for our customers to carry out their everyday lives, it will offer powerful and precise performance in a variety of conditions and climactic extremes. Allied with the versatile credentials of our celebrated PACE family, this will be an electric performance SUV like no other.” Ian Hoban, Jaguar Vehicle Line Director

Customers will be able to use mains power to prepare the car’s battery and cabin temperature ahead of a journey. Pre-conditioning the car ensures maximum range, performance and comfort whether temperatures are freezing cold or extremely hot. Setting up preferred charging times and pre-conditioning schedules can be done from either the on-board InControl system, or the Remote smartphone APP, and is as easy as setting an alarm.

The Jaguar I-PACE was recently voted by readers of What Car? magazine as the most anticipated new car of 2018, securing six times the votes of any other model on the shortlist, which includes the likes Mercedes-Benz, Tesla and Audi.


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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by Dara » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:56 pm

Will it use CCS or Chademo plug points? I have a BMW i3 and don't want to change the 3 charging points I have


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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by mariwing » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:48 pm

At home you have neither CCS or Chademo, you have a Type 2 plug for your i3. IpPACE will have the same plug.

For quick charging it will use CCS (and not Chademo).
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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by GeordieLee » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:45 pm

If you have a number of different car with their differing plug sockets is it not possible to buy a separate cable but keep the type 2 charge point. The cable with have a type 2 on one end and (which plugs I to the chargepoint) and the specific car ,type socket’ on the other. In the U.K. we only get a grant per household for one charge point..don’t want multiple pint s for differing cars! Does anyone know if a


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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by Paul J. » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:01 pm

Home charger options include those with socket outlets, to which you connect the appropriate lead:

http://www.rolecserv.com/ev-charging/pr ... r-The-Home
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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by Ian Devon » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:52 pm

I am a newby to the EV world and still undecided about taking one on because I do not want it to be a car that is so compromised I have to use one of the other cars when needing to do a long journey. My father lives 250 miles away and I travel to see him at least once a month. If I could recharge the car in 45 minutes that would work quite well whilst I was having a break but how prevalent are these 100kw chargers? Is it something that will change in the near future do you think. The M5/M6 seem to have quite a few 50kw chargers so I could adjust where I stop but how long would that take to get you charged to a reasonable level? TIA


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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by BD06 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:25 am

Ian Devon wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:52 pm
I am a newby to the EV world and still undecided about taking one on because I do not want it to be a car that is so compromised I have to use one of the other cars when needing to do a long journey. My father lives 250 miles away and I travel to see him at least once a month. If I could recharge the car in 45 minutes that would work quite well whilst I was having a break but how prevalent are these 100kw chargers? Is it something that will change in the near future do you think. The M5/M6 seem to have quite a few 50kw chargers so I could adjust where I stop but how long would that take to get you charged to a reasonable level? TIA
If your EV is fully charged you have about 200 to 220 miles range. In 45 minutes with a 50kwh DC you should be able to get 80 miles again. So you can make it. But at destination you will have to charge again to get back. By experience it is a question of organization that we are not used to. The main question is the reliability of the charging points.
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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by Rob » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:35 am

In the UK according to this article there aren't any: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/indu ... le-britain
The public charging infrastructure is not yet ready for the I-Pace's rapid charging capability, but Jaguar says the correct charging points will be in place when the I-Pace goes on sale


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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by Ian Devon » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:29 am

BD06 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:25 am
Ian Devon wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:52 pm
I am a newby to the EV world and still undecided about taking one on because I do not want it to be a car that is so compromised I have to use one of the other cars when needing to do a long journey. My father lives 250 miles away and I travel to see him at least once a month. If I could recharge the car in 45 minutes that would work quite well whilst I was having a break but how prevalent are these 100kw chargers? Is it something that will change in the near future do you think. The M5/M6 seem to have quite a few 50kw chargers so I could adjust where I stop but how long would that take to get you charged to a reasonable level? TIA
If your EV is fully charged you have about 200 to 220 miles range. In 45 minutes with a 50kwh DC you should be able to get 80 miles again. So you can make it. But at destination you will have to charge again to get back. By experience it is a question of organization that we are not used to. The main question is the reliability of the charging points.
Great information and thanks for the response. Sounds like it would work. As you say down to the reliability of the charges.


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Re: FAST-CHARGING I-PACE

Post by DRCayenne » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:44 pm

Hi,

All you could ever want to know about charg(e)ing times etc. ( https://ev-database.uk/car/1097/Jaguar-I-Pace )

Destination Charging (0 -> 100%)

Charging is possible by using a regular wall plug or a charging station. Public charging is always done through a charging station. How fast the EV can charge depends on the charging station (EVSE) used and the maximum charging capacity of the EV. The table below shows all possible options for charging the Jaguar I-Pace. Each option shows how fast the battery can be charged from empty to full.

NOTE: Jaguar has not released details about the on-board charger of the I-Pace. The information below is based on estimatation of the most likely on-board charger.
Type 2 (Mennekes - IEC 62196)
Charging Point Car Uses Power Time Rate
Wall Plug (2.3 kW) 230V / 1x10A 2.3 kW 45 hours 5 mph
1-phase 16A (3.7 kW) 230V / 1x16A 3.7 kW 28 hours 9 mph
1-phase 32A (7.4 kW) 230V / 1x32A 7.4 kW 14 hours 18 mph
3-phase 16A (11 kW) 230V / 1x16A 3.7 kW † 28 hours 9 mph
3-phase 32A (22 kW) 230V / 1x32A 7.4 kW † 14 hours 18 mph

† = Limited by on-board charger, vehicle cannot charge faster.

Fast Charging (10 -> 80%)

Fastcharging is only possible at public charging points. Fastchargers enable longer journeys by adding as much range as possible in the shortest amount of time. As fastcharges will only charge a battery up to 80% of its capacity at full speed, the optimal fastcharge is between 10% and 80% SoC. The fastcharge rate of an EV depends on the charger used and the maximum charging power the EV can handle. The table below shows all details for fastcharging the Jaguar I-Pace.

NOTE: Jaguar has not released details about fast charging the I-Pace. The information below is based on estimated values of the most likely fast charging capabilities.
Combined Charging System (CCS Combo 2)
Charging Point Car Uses Time Rate
CCS (50 kW DC) 50 kW 1h30m 130 mph
CCS (100 kW DC) 100 kW 40 min 250 mph
CCS (150 kW DC) 120 kW † 35 min 290 mph

† = Limited by fastcharge capabilities of vehicle

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