Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by AGT » Wed May 15, 2019 12:31 pm

I charged at Fastned, Sunderland on Monday at an up to 350 charger.

From 23% SOC to 90% SOC the charger delivered 53.44KwH in 53.25 minutes.

I measured SOC advance in bands of 10% starting from my 23% SOC on arrival. The fastest band was from 43% SOC to 53% SOC which took 5 minutes and almost exactly a 100 kW charging speed based on a battery capacity of 84. My timings were not precise; only in whole minutes and so it might have been closer to 6 minutes rather than 5 minutes.

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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by emgf » Wed May 15, 2019 12:41 pm

Snoerd wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 11:13 am
I see it in Topix for my Dutch car as well. But I wonder why it would be country specific. Why not applicable to German cars? Do the Dutch and Norwegians complain too much compared to other markets? Legal consequences? Or are we just in a "testing" group?
Because Norwegian and Dutch cars represent thousands of cars
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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by Snoerd » Wed May 15, 2019 1:56 pm

emgf wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 12:41 pm
Snoerd wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 11:13 am
I see it in Topix for my Dutch car as well. But I wonder why it would be country specific. Why not applicable to German cars? Do the Dutch and Norwegians complain too much compared to other markets? Legal consequences? Or are we just in a "testing" group?
Because Norwegian and Dutch cars represent thousands of cars
So why apply it to thousands of cars and not to the rest?
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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by norpace » Wed May 15, 2019 2:12 pm

Snoerd wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 11:13 am
I see it in Topix for my Dutch car as well. But I wonder why it would be country specific. Why not applicable to German cars? Do the Dutch and Norwegians complain too much compared to other markets? Legal consequences? Or are we just in a "testing" group?
There's a lot of 100 kW chargers there (Ionity, Fortum, Fastned, ++) that provide > 100 kW to e-Tron, but not the I-Pace - and this generates complaints? While in the UK these are less common, so this can wait a little bit?


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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by FENorway » Wed May 15, 2019 4:53 pm

Hopefully the H216 gives more kW over a broader spectre than the H193. A guess there are no tests or logs available online from charging of I-Paces with this SW. This seems to be completely new.
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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by ELray » Wed May 15, 2019 6:26 pm

Snoerd wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 11:13 am
I see it in Topix for my Dutch car as well. But I wonder why it would be country specific. Why not applicable to German cars? Do the Dutch and Norwegians complain too much compared to other markets? Legal consequences? Or are we just in a "testing" group?
Yes, IT sure is strange. Why limit the fix to certain ppl. I don’t get that procedure.
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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by Intermezzo » Fri May 17, 2019 8:49 am

I have H216 installed on my Dutch I_pace yesterday , i'll test if there are any differences. Main item should be better communication between DC charger and the Car. When the charging speed is different i'll post it on this forum.
(I'm very happy that we can update the car in our own workshop, almost every week there is some new software for the car, also software that is not announced in Topix)


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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by ELray » Fri May 17, 2019 8:57 am

Intermezzo wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 8:49 am
I have H216 installed on my Dutch I_pace yesterday , i'll test if there are any differences. Main item should be better communication between DC charger and the Car. When the charging speed is different i'll post it on this forum.
(I'm very happy that we can update the car in our own workshop, almost every week there is some new software for the car, also software that is not announced in Topix)
Man, now I am jealous!!!
I got 8,5 hours drive to closest dealer, and they won’t take my call no more. Lol
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Re: Still no 100 kW charging speed (Fastned/Ionity)

Post by JohnGriff » Sun May 19, 2019 11:14 am

Have a look at this link that I included it in the topic H216 fix for 100kW charging as well. Last week at 150kW hypercharger max charge effect after 13 mins was only 55.9kW. Start SOC was around 38% and effect when charging started was a meager 45kW. Car had been driven for 50kms at motorway speeds. So even though nearly middle of May points to the battery not being warm enough. So as I have said in the other post no point being able to support chargeing at 100kW if the battery temperature is not in the tight range.

Graph in the link shows before and after charge curves. Article also points out that with the fix applied charging to 80% in 40 minutes is what Jaguar had advertised. So I doubt we will see an increase in charge rate between 50 and 80% in the very near future.

https://insideevs.com/news/343335/jagua ... er-update/
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